I was watching Return of the Jedi just now, and the part where Luke turns himself in and tells his daddy that there’s still good in him our Sith master, Darth Vader replies, “Obi-Wan once thought as you do.” And then I remembered that in A New Hope, where the two former allied fought I didn’t get that vibe at all.

Remember what robotic Anakin said? “When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master!” Vader tells Obi Wan, pretty much, Last time we meant you were the master I was the learner. And in Revenge of the Sith, Obi is sent to kill the newly unleashed villain responsible for the end of the Clone Wars. And almost has every intention to do so but can’t, because they were like brothers. Which apparently didn’t stop him from leaving his kind of sibling to burn to death.

But in that fight between heroes he does not say that there’s “still good in him,” meaning when Darth Vader tells Luke, “Obi-Wan once thought as you do.” It can’t reference any duel between the two of them featured in the movies! Or it’s a mammoth plot hole. But come on it’s more fun to think they met each other between episodes.


Follow my line of reasoning, if this is true then when Vader sayid, “A presence I haven’t felt since…” implies that he hasn’t felt his old mentor since something huge happened. I, like many fanboys and fangirls believed it was the Mustafar tussle. But now, it points to something else entirely! They have to face each other again and what more perfect stomping ground exists then Star Wars Rebels?

Simon Kinberg (X-Men: Days of Future Past) and Dave Filoni (Star Wars: The Clone Wars) have said that the entire series is made with the structure of a “three-part-act” meaning, it’ll have a beginning, middle and end. Taking into consideration that none of the main cast of characters appear in later movies they’re more then likely going to sacrifice themselves, maybe when they acquire the Death Star plans for or something.

Obi-Wan must have faced Vader sometime before then trying to get him back to the light, possibly with help from Anakin‘s former apprentice, which of course will only end badly thus cementing our Jedi’s belief against his “brother” by A New Hope.


If Vader would face Obi-Wan at the end of the series, Vader saying, “I haven’t felt a presence like this since…” Wouldn’t make sense, but if it took place sometime in the middle, it’ll give Vader at least a year or two to remember a powerful event in his past, one where he proved he is the evil dark lord to his former master by killing his own former apprentice.

Who’s excited for what Star Wars: Rebels could bring? We are, we are!